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Episode 4 · 9 months ago

Four Years Three Months Twenty Three Days Seven Hours And Fifteen Minutes Served - Marine Mark Sadzinski

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Mark Sadzinski served in the Marines for Four Years, Three Months, Twenty Three Days, Seven Hours and Fifteen Minutes. Most people that serve start counting down to their final day during their last few months or year, not from day one. Mark has a reason he knows the time down to the minutes and he explains it on this episode.

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So a lot of times in high school college is always pushed down the throats of the students. Now really hear about the trade schools. You don't really hear about the military and unfortunately a lot of these kids when they get out of high school to go into college. Some do go into the military trade schools, but a lot of ways that go into the college because they are told that's what to do and I'll either not finishing college or get out and still trying to find their path. Some people at a high school just get a job. Some people, you know, their loss. They don't know what they want to do and some of those people actually choose the military. On this episode of lifetime oath I have a good friend of mine, a brother a Marine, and he's going to tell his story about why he joined the Marine Corps, how he was basically stuck. He was working out a high school and living with his sister and just it wasn't for him and he decided to go ahead and take the lifetime oath. You're when he came to find a sponsor for lifetime oath, I wanted somebody that I knew cared about the veterans in the first responders somebody that actually did a lot in the community and I was able to find that exact person, Joe Ayler of Tar heel construction group. I am happy to say they are the exclusive sponsor for lifetime ooth. Tar Heel construction group does basically anything exterior wise on your house, whether besiding, windows, roof, gutters, they take care of it all. And the best thing about it is they look out for the veterans in the first responders. They're not one of these companies that say, Oh, free root for your you know if you're a veteran and all that. They that's a marketing employee. People do that because they wanted they're taking advantage of a lot of the veterans and first responders. In my eyes, Tar heel doesn't do that. Yeah, if they find out you're a veteran, they're going to take care of you. They find out you're a first responder, they're going to take care of you. But guess what, even if you're not, they're still going to take care of you. They are the two thousand and Nineteen Harford Award winner for outstanding service to the community. They are gf master elite Roofer. They have the Harford canty living stamp of approval. They have won the Harford Candy living choice awards as well as the best of Harford. And when it comes to reviews, well, just look down good to our heel construction groupcom. Do a Google search on tar heel construction group reviews. You'll see how great people love them. Good at our Heo Construction Groupcom or give them a call at four hundred and zero three, eight seven zero two one. Again, that's four hundred and two sixty eight seven zero two one. Also, just when the legendary views, information or opinions expressed during lifetime move are sole e there's of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of tar heel construction group or their employees. My name is rich Bennett and this is lifetime mooth. On this podcast you'll hear from veterans active military, their families, their spouses, firefighters, police officers, nurses, doctors, first responders, all these people that serve us. They served to protect us, they served to defend the constitution of the United States. These are people that have served on wartime. They have served throughout the different cities of the United States or at the world. They have served or in peacetime. They have some incredible stories, whether sad. Some will make you man, some will make you lave. These are the people that have taken the lifetime. So Joe Ailor and I are sitting here today with a marine, actually a good friend of mine, and he'll explain how that happened. Mark said Zinski, who actually served after me. Right, you can went in what eighty nine? When in ninety two? Oh, well, after me. Yeah, okay, and I didn't get out there like ninety seven. I spent four years. And this, this is amazing. I spent four...

...years, three months, twenty four days, seven hours and fifteen minutes as a marine and the if you want to hear the whole story, Oh, we'll get into that. Yeah, yeah, and it was a it to me. It's amazing, the four years, three months, twenty four days, seven hours fifteen minutes and the marines. If you look back through the years of your life and think about the four years you spent in high school and the friends you made and things you done and things that look at, and then you look at the four years in your s right now, forty seven years old, two daughters, four years and your s when your kids were growing up and you know, you took them to soccer games and you took them to ice cream or ballet. What have you the most significant four years, the most memorable and maybe the most influential four years, three months, twenty four days, of seven hours, of fifteen minutes of my life, and I'm still talking to about this twenty years after I got out. Those four years made a amazing influence on my life. Changes you definitely and well, you kind of grow up fast. Apparently it made your memory very well, because I can't remember down to the minute without it. Well, women, you're serving damn near Jeralson the camp the days. Yeah, we'll get into that in a minute. I so tell everybody be because you're from here, well, from Baltimore, right, yes, I I so. What was it like growing up? And then what made you decide to go into the Marine Corps? Okay, so I grew up in like fells point area of Onarmer city. My Dad had a really neat job, at least I thought so. He put sales on sailboats. He actually, wow, need the canvas for the sales and sail boats, and a couple of times he told me to the boat where we install this sound mean? This is like when I was six and we'd put the sales on the sales boat boat and we take the boat out s Ling to that test sales or and it was it was great. Soon after that came the S. I was born in seventy three. So soon after that came the s and then you had the unemployment, you had a recession, a lot of people lost their jobs, a lot of people took up alcohol. Yeah, as trying shape. Yeah, so things soon went downhill. Right. Next thing you know, my dad's unemployed, drinking and I lost my mom at eight. Oh Wow, and my dad was not in good shape. So we were on food stamps, we were on, you know, government cheese, right, that kind of situation. And then when I was ten, my dad passed. Good Lord, probably from all the drinking and the just, you know, stress, and everything's stress, the Miise, I don't know. So I lived with Mark Grandmother for about a year, right, and this woman was actually a Auschwitz concentration camp survivor. Wow, yeah, at but she still had the mentality that, you know, she don't raised her son, my right father, and she's sixty plus years old. Not In at that time, yeah, not in the mood to be putting up with no twelve year old hellyeon right, you know. So my sister, who's six years older than me, turned eighteen, she got an apartment and I moved in with her and we still do your job. At the time, yeah, I was twelve and we still lived in this city and we were doing better, right, you know, not great, but better, you know. And it's one thing. I was like, you can't complain because as long as the situation is getting better, yeah, be happy, because it used to be worse. So she turned eighteen, she had a boyfriend, they were getting serious, they were getting involved, and I'm eighteen and I'm a third wheel. So kind of fell out of Turkeys into like, what was it, officer and a gentleman? I had to join the marines because I got...

...nowhere else to go, right, I had to get the hell out of here, so I went to the and and the Navy, the Marine, the Navy, the army, the Air Force. Actually, Air Force Guy Stopped me walking through the hall of the Recruitment Center, and I mean he was damn near throwing money at me, cash. The Air Force recruited. Yeah, and I thought there was a wait in line for them. This was ninety two. So I so anyway. But I mean I just didn't like the way to carry themselves. Yeah, they didn't have the snap a pop and all that. It's snapped the pop. But and even they say Marines are arrogant. Well, well, yeah, we kind of deserved it, you know what I mean? Yeah, we worked for that air gets. Yeah, you know, we we did what we did to be that kind of arrogant. And it you want to call arrogance, call a pride, dedication, call it discipline, that discipline. But what made you go to the recruitment center? What was the influence there? Well, okay, well, yeah, it's very good question. Drive by and say that you have a family member that was enlisted. Or I was in high school. I was. I went to Patterson high school and I did like three years of autom mate, automotive shop. You know, we were change oil, fixed call. They still talk trades back into schools then, exactly, and I tell you what, that's something else they should well, yeah, okay. So, and then that actually being in high school, working in high school, learning how to fix cars, got me my first job at Kimmel tire changing the world. The hires do break jobs. Would have you that I left there went the good year and no kidding, right there, good year, east point mall. Oh yeah, right around, like we're talking thirty, forty feet is the arm first's recruitment center. One day are going all for work and I'm looking at these paychecks. Three bucks an hour, wait, minut what? Yeah, ninety money, yeah, whatever, minimum waits. Three bucks an hour and I'm coming home covered in Greece tired dirt stain all day. Whatever. This ain't going to pay any rent right. Ain't cutting in, my sister, you know, you gotta go. So I walked in and, like I said, I walk past the Air Force Guy and and I just looked at him and said now I can do better. I'm hate if I'M gonna if I'm going to fail, I'm going to try as hard as I can, go it all and I ratch it down. You know what I mean? Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, and you do that like if you were to, if you went to boot camp and you didn't cut it as a marine, would they take what they even day you? Oh God, yeah, yeah, especially if you got the matter of fact the marine fail if it is basic different in all BA basia trainings is longer in the Marine Corps and and I think it's still to this day. If you go through Marine Corps based can you become a marine and it's all if you go is it all at Parris Island or is it Parris Island or San Diego? Either were. But let's say after you do your four years in the Marine Corps you want to go into the Navy, Air Force whatever, you don't have to go through your basic training. But if you come from the navy, yeah, yeah, you still have to go through the K or basic training. It basically, if you flunk out of her marines or whatever, you could actually go into the air force and go through your basic and pretty sure. I mean if I flunk out of the Air Force, not they're done yet, not arrogant or whatever, but if I flunk out the FREAKING Air Force boot camp or whatever, I don't know what the Hell I do. But you're working at a local you're working at chemill tire your you're tired one day walking home and you walk by the recruitment office and you stop to hang and walk out of work that day and just realize that well, and as well as my friends, everybody that I graduated high school with and like notinety one and ninety three that error. They're literally working at restaurants, busting tables, waitering or doing some kind of mega minimum way, a minimum way. It's not a career, I was gonna say, because a lot back then, a lot of people weren't going into the military, or if they were, a lot of them were going into because they had the GI bill right. A lot of them were going in to get the college education. Yeah, yeah, I mid, mid mid S. now, we hadn't mcgomer GIG. That's another weird story of all...

...you, depending on how much time do you got, I could tell you about that job. So anyway, it was a matter of looking at my friends, you know, and in the same time frame that I graduated school, seeing what they were doing and, like a lot of us, college wasn't on the books. Didn't have the money for that, and these labor low wage jobs weren't cutting it. I mean even if you had two, three people come together as roommates, you still wouldn't you know, you'd scrape by make the rent. Yeah, and I just thought that while for one, there's more. I literally grew up and felts point, moved to Cantonhama town. I could literally walk from where I went from high school to where I was born and I thought, wow, the earth is pretty big. Yeah, you seem made it out of like two different ZIP codes. So, yeah, there's more to see, right and and honestly, I mean yeah, you're really gotta appreciate the fact that the Marine Corps sent me to places where maybe some of them I didn't want to go. Some of them I love to gop in the France, Italyite seemed the seen the Vatican, I saw the Dead Sea. I've been through Rome, Spain, Portugal, Israel, some Tel Aviv. I got a you know, pictures of US hanging out at tell Avis. So you are an infantry then, not ainger. Okay, I gonna say you've been in all those places. You are an infantry network. Get on the mid flute. Yeah, and when I was one of the mid flute, we were supposed to over gone to Turkey and Greece but because of some mom during that time, Somalia, and I got a medal for it too, and didn't even understand what the hell we were doing over there. It was Somalia, her Dejah, I know I ruined that name. I don't even think it's a country anymore. It was Bostonia, Somalia, Herdsia. So, yeah, country, and they were doing ethnic cleansing. We went over there straighten things up, at least for the time being. got a metal for it. Wow, but we had to skip the grease in the Turkey ports because we had to go to adriantic see to deal with this. And that was the same. Member Grady. Yeah, it's plane was shot down or whatever. We not our aircraft carrier but another one. They extracted them. Is that the Black Hawk down? Thing was that? When that in Somali or megadesis something that every day. Where is that same? It was und my aircraft carry but the same fight, same war. Yeah, they send a group of ships out at the same time. Wasn't more particular one, but during literally we could see the other, you know, when they flew, women put them down and you know, everybody was wow, you know, and then you know, it makes you feel good, give you something to tell your kids. Yeah, that you know. Like I said, if I stayed in high school I'd still be changing your oil. I'd be asking if you want a new air fresher, fresher for your car with your oil change or something. So you know, I don't proud of my right. So I would you do when you were in the air? When would you do? What was your MOS? That's I tell you, man, I know stories. We got stories. Ms Job. My daughter just rolls her eyes when I start going on these things. I was a six thousand and seventy two, which is aircraft ground support equipment, the Annak, I can fakes, the generators, the tow trucks, the turbine engines that you would start an aircraft with. So you went from working on car engines to like really awesome engines. Well, Hey, it was very similar. Yeah, that's why my recruiter put me in that and most because it was so similar to what I was doing. Diesels, gasolene engines, turbine engines, which I didn't work one. Right, we're in. The hell are you going to work on a turbine engine in the civilian world? Really, I mean, but when you fire went in them up, it's pretty cool anyway. So pull what are you?...

Truck Joe? What? What? I want to get sucked into them. When I got out of we went to and I tell you, I had some wonderful I mean you go to Paris Island, South Carolina boot camp, MMM, but to Marine Corps combat training in Le June, more Carolina. Then we went to school of invertrey Pendleton Guiger, the Guy Guy Higer, which is right outside was Youne. Then I'm went to my first Pilson, the one in California. Yeah, that's right. Went then I went to my first a school, which was in Memphis Tennessee. Oh, nice, and just going to a school, the first school to work on these things. went to Graceland. You ever see the Memphis Bridge with the double? We used to call the Dolly PARTON BRIDGE BECAUSE OF A double. Yeah, whatever, there's an islands, come on Alan. I seen bb King, I seen man, I mean all kinds of concerts. When is Allen? Because I was there for school. Right, never mind being in the fleet, just being in this school and Memphis, Tennessee, grace land, wonderful. Then my c school, which is the next one, which was another six months I spent in Jackson, Florida. When did the Tona Beach Bike Week? We did hitters. Well, yeah, of course you gotta do here. Actually, there was a place called mark show place, and this is where, you know, things get a little gray. It was the biggest adult entertainment venue I ever seen in my life. That the one where they where do you open the little people door? No, you go in multiple couple that have multiple things. This place was the size of the Civic Center, whatever you call now rural farms arena. This is an adult entertainment. Then you with many stages. So anyway, getting back to the you know, day Tona bike week, six flags or land, Disney world, whatever does is just going to schools. And then I got stage in the Cherry Point North Carolina to actually do what they trained me to do. When I got to the squadron, they said we don't need you to do what we just spent a year training you to do. We need you to actually fix the airplanes. I never went to airplane school. Will show you. Within six months I was a plane captain fixing a a V eight B two Plus Harriers, the Harrier, Whoa up jet? Yeah, I knew nothing about it. I knew some stuff about turbine engines because of the turbines right orders, but now I actually got so not only was I sixty and seventy two round support equipment mechanic. My other one, molest was sixty fifteen, which was a vight B plane. Captain and I changed engines, we pulled the wings off of them, we changed the landing gear, we did the inspections on the turbine blades of the motors, changed all kinds of things. They got rid of that, didn't they? The hair is, there's the Rondom, there's no flying. I thought the Osprey took its place. They all shorty. Is kind of like they're utilizing it, but they're haven't literally cut the cord to the Harrier. Okay, good. and My squandron was two and twenty three V a May tw hundred twenty three hour cherry point. We call it the great American bulldogs and that we can said. The Camaraderie on facebook I probably got two, three hundred friends, maybe a hundred of them, yeah, are guys that from the Squadron and I was only in four years. So I mean and, like I said, we were talking to Brotherhood about how close you were with people that the last time you seen them was in Israel. HMM. I got about five six friends from the Marines in my squadron that live in southern Maryland, and I'm going further names out, but they're well, he's called one Guy Frenchy opie. We all had nicknames. I was yeah, of course, but yeah, and it's amazing that, even though you made this full circle and there's people I don't know fifty miles from you that the last time you seen them could been Italy or twenty years ago. And and you've been on facebook in the Oh my God, yes, it's creat least right. That's rude from yeah, because...

I know there's our our medic lives in Dundalk and another buddy of mine that and actually because when I was at Naval Whooping Station Earle, we had nice barrackstairs too. Were three guys to a room, and one of the guys in my room from doundalk. But yet we haven't talked to each other since eighty one, hundred and eighty two. Can't find them on Facebook, you know now? No, I take that back. The MEDIC DOC law, I have and I still call him Doc. Well, that's you know, like we were talking about that earlier. Vma To twenty three has her own facebook web page. Yeah, and you can connect with people, whatever, every every school, HMM, every unit, every it's wonderful how facebook has helped people reconnect that you probably never see this or talked to this person, and I also believe that it has saved some people's lives. We knew that because we have a friend of ours was on there on one of the the think of what the USMC vet's green age talking about and at all. Yeah, as I do know, if you need anybody to talk to, call on whatever and in the twenty two a day. Yeah, the same thing. It's I got a lot of friends and everybody goes up and down. I mean there's if you just wanted your life to be from A to B and just linear line, life pretty boring. So yes, the down suck. UPS Are Great. But just because you're down, everybody goes down and you might need to reach out and talk to somebody. That's when they're up and they help you. And one day that's doc the spree to court. HMM, when you're down, I'm here to help you up. When when I'm down, you help me off, Yep, exactly. And you know, the other thing I would like to mention is some of the companies that really make a big difference and veterans lives like mission barbecue would be a new one of being up and yet there, and and Tur hero construction and flying dog brewery. I did a tour of their brewery and they were just just so appreciative. Yeah, like mission Tar Hero Construction, so appreciative of the vets that you actually felt welcome and and and honored that they cared. Yeah, you know what I mean. But it's and the the the younger generations, I think like sound forty seven. I was in the service Marines from ninety two to ninety seven and it's hard, I guess, I don't know, for the younger generation to do like these podcast or maybe sign one to facebook, you know, groups or things like that. I don't know why. I think it's maybe they feel that they're not connected as like maybe the War II era or the Vietnam are guys. I don't see him at VFW's. I don't seem an American legions now. I'm wonder where are they? It's the one generational thing, I think, the elk lodges and the vfws. Yeah, I think a lot of it's got to do what they did in the military too, because if a lot of them that were over in Afghanistan or Iraq, they just it's a George brought this up. It's like they only want to talk to other people that have gone through the same thing and they're not going to find anial face. Well, they doesn't find it on the same conflict or the same yeah, I think. Yeah, the jungle are of Vietnam and Afghanistan thing of urban assaults. I mean literally your I can't speak for people in the Vietnam cur right of War II are as, jungle warfare, and then you've got this other generation that were literally king doors in on House. There's completely different, very much different, and maybe they don't feel the connection, but I hope that they understand that you got brothers and even though it ain't the same situation. So therefore there's an ear.

Yeah, and you know, PA PTSD, you're twenty two a day and I tell you, I I the Va, I got to say when I first got out of the military and ninety seven there's where are seventy white? Yeah, ninety seven to va was kind of like a just any other government entity. Very seemed on the organized yes, it was whatever. They have gotten so much better Oh God, yes, and recently they've got, you know, I mean they got the APPS, they got the websites, they got the secure messaging, they got the whatever to video conference and thing. MMM. And the younger generation, I mean I hope that the younger general to va has came around so much to help the PTSD of the twenty two, twenty two twenty one error, and I hope they utilize it and not to think, you know, like it's a stigmata that ask for help. It's not. Yeah, it's there for you. They created it for you to use. You don't have the tone, nobody you need help. Just go on are ain't nobody going to criticize you or, you know, condemn you? Use It. It's there for you. It's why they created it and they came a long way, very long way. There's a lot of nonprofits out there too that do the same thing. I know my sister in law runs one right now which had a pairy point called chat. There's a guy got you. You may notice when there's a guy up and have it you. Gracia has one of the schooners victory. I can remember the name of it, but anyways, that's who'll take a group of veterans or active military animal these free cruises right and everything, and it helps, you know, especially when it's going through PTSD. It helps a lot, absolutely, you know, and people don't understand that, and I mean Ione facebook. I've seen people post, you know, my marine friends post. You know, three things go wrong and you feel like you're in quicksand and you don't know how to clent him out of it and it's kind of just allow yourself to sink and then one day, yeah, I guess maybe you realize that you can't, you're not this going to let yourself go. You need to pull yourself out and maybe some people help you, like talking with you or, you know, lending a hand. You know, ilse but flooded. I'll be over there. I got a bucket in the mall. Yeah, let me know where you're at. You know what I mean. And it's a spree to it's the camaraderie of brotherhood, this spree to core. And I mean I'm sure the army and the navy and the Air Force and you know also do that, but we know. You and I've been only need known each other, what a year, and it didn't any and it's like we connect it like that. Yeah, once you say that marine thing is like yeah, man, and you know I mean the other you think about it to when I drive up down the ninety five going to work, if I see one or two navy stickers on a car, or maybe one air force, maybe that's a lot to army, everybody that was in the Marines. It's got them die in this Uh Huh likes a lot the whatever and even the parents or whatever, the great parents. They had black and randslods. It's when they say it's the elite fighting force or whatever, the a pride, the like. I said you, you didn't join the Marine Corps, you joined a brotherhood of people that are are going to stare forever and exactly you want some marine, always a marine. Yeah, if if a young person approached to today and said they were thinking about going in the Marines, what would you tell him? It's odd you brought that. Firstly, I would ask him as why, like anything any marine like, I remember whatever when I got to add a boot camp at I went homere recruiting duty or whatever, where you literally put a one and, you know, dress blues, walking around the mall and try and drag teens to go into the cut. Didn't do that. Okay, to days that I'm like.

I said, that was another good, great I swear I got so many great gigs out of the Marine Corps. I cannot complain. Yeah, you can. Kids, try the mall not complain. You put on your dress blues, you walk around, talk to girls, the girls all, yeah, girls, come on, yeah, exactly what. You would try and get people to go in and if you did, if you got one or two people to go and you might get a promotion. Right. So, anyway, my my daughter, I got an older stepdaughter. She's twenty too, and she's graduated from Townson with a ninety degree. And, and I mean the the the whatever, the market that it's flooded. Yeah, but I got what she could do in the military with that degree. Well, we talked about that and I told her, I said, honey, I don't think you once you go in the air force, they got better beds, better food that they do. I mean come and she I don't think she liked the Marine Corps. I don't think she'd put up with it. I don't know. I can't say what the boot camp today, you know, just like yeah, you know. I mean you got people from War One saying that your boot and you went into the Vietnam and they see your boot camp and crap to compared to right. And you know everybody does that. You know you guys ain't had it as hard as we did, but I recommend it. Just joining the Marine Corps great whatever, but I think if the digeneration would utilize what the military could do for you, just like as I did, m because the I work at the post office, the four years I spent in the Marine Corps camp towards the time that I work at the post office, so I could to retire at fifty seven. You don't have to join the Marine Corps. You could doin any branch of service and utilize the TR raining they give you. Yeah, and the fact that they send you to different places and you side the world and see different cultures and and be a renaissance person and really see everything about this place of this world and utilize to training and you get a better job. You move yourself right up the and and you feel pride m and you got the Camaraderie. Even if your navy or Army or Air Force, coach guard, space force, you but except accepting that pledge. You know that change is that your jectory of every every marine's life, right, if you would have kept walking past that recruitment office when you were young, you'd probably be leading a very different life. Absolutely God. Like I said, I'd be asking you if you wanted air freshener with your role change. But I mean asking an eighteen year old is a lot easier. You know, hey, make make. You're asking a young person to make a very tough decision. Yeah, you know, I just think it's it's interesting to think about, you know, because that could be the best decision that you ever made in your life. But you're hesitant because you know, there's inexperience in life. I think that if you if if they were at the point than I was when I was eighteen, actually, I was in that what he called the the furred the furred and listening thing. Yeah, I do. When when I was seventeen, I had to wait all turn eight. Yeah, yeah, whatever, if they were in the position that I was, or even close or even whatever. I mean, you look at the kids that are graduating high school today and they're looking at college or whatever. You know, and basically, do you look at your other friends and the other people in your position and do you just want to follow the path that you know what I mean? You just want to simply follow that path? Or do you want to do something? It's not for everybody. No, it's not for everything, enough for everybody. But if, if you're not, if you were, if you got the guest balls right, you know, and if you're bored with seeing what everybody else is doing and you want something different and you want to challenge yourself and see if you can do it, go for it. Go for it. There's nothing wrong with failing. You fail, all right, all right, it would make failure in the marine nowadays, it's hard to say, because when we were in, and how mean of you to take...

...a guess, extreme, I would say, extremely high now in all branches because as you can quit. If, yeah, that's something they know. Yeah, that's something they change. Before they wouldn't let you quit. Oh God, though, they would put you through hell. It was. He's called recycled. Well, that's what it's called. It still called that, but I mean somebody can go in and, let's say, they have I call it Miss Mommy Syndrome, you know, and because there are people to do that, that have that, and after a few weeks they're just the anxiety and everything. And Yeah, they can request to get out if you fit, even if you if you finished boot camp. My understanding is, and I thought, so I got to did this. So the recruiter promised him a certain Ms, a certain job. Finished boot can't he get that job? He was allowed to quit because recruiters a contract. Yeah, yeah, which, you know what, when we, when I went in, suck it up, yeah, this is what you're doing. They didn't even give us from generation. It is well, promise, you asked. You know, what would I like? My nephew asked me. He said he wanted to go in the Marine Corps and but he was just focused on like being a raider and all this stuff because he went to go into navy. Want to be a ceus looked dude. I said, don't focus on that. I said what I did in the Marine Corps. I'm glad I did, because was it opened up so much more for me in the Marine Corps that I would have never if I would have gone in for like the MS, like what you did with, you know, the aircraft, or even as a cook. I wouldn't, I wouldn't been able to do what I did. So I told him, I said going for infantry, because if you're if you go into infantry, which is three D and eleven rifleman, you do that. Didn't you want to go and do something else? You want to go to the raiders, you know, then you can try out for that, but with the infantry you're already there and you're doing other stuff. If I didn't, if I wasn't a eleven, I wouldn't been able to train a lot of the people that I trained and do a lot of the stuff that I did, and I loved it. I wouldn't have changed that for the world, you know, and one of the things I always talked about is how many people could say that they trained Navy midshipment and seals for I didn't for your minimum cost, the three year now or two year? Well, because you got the reserves. So I have that. Good. The change it, you know, it's go be four, will be six, it depends on and you got to basically negotiate with your recruiter. Yeah, listen, if you signed up for one MS, one job, the script and military occupation specialty. I'Ms if you signed up for this and you after four years you didn't want to do it no more. You know. Let's say you sign for different a grunt, a no three eleven rifleman, you know, and you just didn't want to do it and you wanted to become an air winger, like I was, worked on airplanes. That could be part of your re enlistment package. MM, when you finish those four years, you go to realmlist for another four. Now did the officer situation? I don't know about can't speak, but they actually don't even have a lessis. From understand they know that they just got officer Canada scoing. Well, when you'll go over after four years, when you go to re enlist once again, you can negotiate. You can negotiate a promotion, a change. Let's say you were I was station Angel, do your station, and I got tired of the East Coast. I'm going to go to Okinawa. It would cony or Pendleton, San Diego, whatever I wanted to move. That's negotiable. You want to change on more west, you can go from being a grunt to being an air wink, or you can go and we don't have dogs medical yeah, that's a I mean you can go from an Admin that have actually a lot of at all those shops. Yes, one through eight. I think it is embarkment and Admin logistics. You know, you got tired of pushing paper. All right, I want to be I'm going to drive a tank and they'll send you to school. When you get that in west, will send you right back to school and even though you're twenty eight years old, you're in school with a bunch of eighteen year olds. But YOU'RE gonna drive a tank and you know, so let your...

...ass off every four years. You can read. You can read whatever you're can re negotiate. Yeah, you're to re enlist, reduce another job, occupation, maybe a different base. I mean there's so many opportunities that I think the younger generation, like you said, how would you convince a seventeen, eighteen year old to go and do this? Think about the opportunity. Yeah, yeah, the college. Yeah, you get money for college. It's the only company where you have on the job training and you can learn several different traits. Yeah, Yeo, from the same company, more or less. I was out a yes or now what about young person comes in and says should I enlist in the Marines? No, no, I'm gonna now. I'm just mess. I'm going to give them my I wouldn't be us. Something's not yes or no question. It's not yes or no question. Definitely, yea. It depends on who they are. Yeah, you know. I mean if, and I if you see a kid that's like a like a whiney Mama's boy. Yet a Yeta. And that's the other thing. You somebody. This is way off. Whatever somebody told, posted on facebook or whatever about they should instill the draft, make kids go to know. No, you cannot expect the military, not to say the Marines. You cannot expect the military or the rays your kids, especially what your is not just kids, but your young adults. Ny, a little bitches. Yeah, it's the kid. Is that this respectful eat? Just just you know, I rate out of control, no discipline, and then you want to just throw him or her her got it or that or whatever. It's not. It's not for everyone. You've got to have it's not. It's made out for a certain and personality through in a draft or something like. It would never work, I mean would it's not like Vietnam. Keep in mind in Vietnam they had the draft and actually people that if they did something bad and they were good to go to jail. Yeah, that Vienna were too vin up. They a lot of times of judge give the option, you can either go to jail or you can join the military. Yeah, and you got some you get. I mean it did strange some out, but then again they also had a lot some branches had a lot of problems. Are Enlistment numbers down over the last couple of years? I mean I honestly come say I suppose they. Probably are. They because, well, thanks. I think they went up to look at the political I mean I don't where you want to get in the political things, but when they start giving free college and and and what they call it their they're smashing student loans. Yeah, we forgiving student loans. The military doesn't seem like a vulnerable option because college is going to be free or hell, fifteen dollars, and our minimum wage. It's hard to compete. It's going into making a dedication and committing yourself the four years in the military when then to pay is not a lot. But don't you think that that's why in a lot of these in some areas of the United States. People enter the military because exactly what you're saying, it's an opportunity and in there, you know, demographic or wherever the low quote there, there might not be any opportunity. So this is your opportunity, this is your only chose just that. That's my story. Basically, I was making three bucks an hour and had nowhere else to go. And Yeah, it Westford. I mean you talk about like maybe lower income areas of midwest or you know, different areas where people don't have but when the military's basically got to compete with fifteen an hour minimum wage or free college, yeah, you're not going. And you know, that's the other thing. You got to think when, if, and when, and soon it will. We will have another war and during enough of military members, because we gotta put people back in the boots. I don't know. Yeah, that's the one said thing about the military, Joe, and...

I don't know if you know this or not, but dor and peacetime they tend to down size the military. And when I say down size, not just asking guys to retire early and all that, but you saw it with nine eleven have the UMV vehicles didn't have the proper armor. It's because they were taking that money away from the military. They couldn't do that. So when a war does happen, it's like Shit, what are we going to do? And and the because before nine hundred and eleven, that's how I mentioned that the college thing. The military was offering the GI bill, and you know, you don't want to job training, on which they have, but they were really pushing the gee high bill. You can get a great education in all this. So a lot of kids were joining in the military to get that Gi bill so they could do four years, get out and there. Basically their college is more or less a lot of it's paid for. Well, nine hundred and eleven happened. Well, then the shit hit the fan. All of these people in the military is like, I didn't sign up to go to war, I'm not going to war. So, you know, luckily they listen. Went Up. Nine hundred and eleven happeny. I mean listen, went up big time. People, people. It's weird. It's not. You do have people that love this country and will fight for it. Well, you're saying your points strengthen the army during peacetime. You should, I see your military should always be strong. If you see that China has a stronger military force than us, then we got to make our military force stronger. If Russia's got a stronger military force, we got that's what that's what I've always believed that the commanding officers and the commander in chief needs to look at. If these countries that are a threat to us have a stronger military force, then by God we better have a stronger military force and we better strengthen our bases throughout not just the country, but throughout the world, because some of these countries that are attacked, let me rephrase that, some of these countries that are threatened to be attacked, are not attacked because the military, US military, has based there. The presidence. Prime example with Afghanistan. Look what happened. They poured all the military out and then, I mean the talent band moved right in, it took over. Yeah, I mean my brother's, my brother in laws in the guard and he's in Bosnia right now. Sure want to. He's a flight MADDIC, but he's on a peacekeeper mission. And Yeah, because there's some there's some conflict there, over there, and they've got some mineral in the ground ever there to. I mean, I don't know the the other your perspective one is but we were doing the Bosnia thing in ninety three. I got a metal for it, with the Bosnia the sea. We're store over there, where the world's peacekeeper. They route. We're almost like a dam babysitter and we keep these kids from fighting with these kids, and that's what the boss and from what he was able to tell me, there's some there's value in the land that yaboring country once as their own, and that's the and basically wherever they're, you know, putting our hands aparts, and you stay away from thems. That reference exactly, and we getting into a it's very it's costly for us. We're expendable, though, and you know, just like I don't trump, he would mention that we're providing a service to a lot of countries and we're not being compensated. That's true to for the service that we're providing. We're we're almost, you want to call like being a bouncer or a referee or peace keeper or a what have you. And these countries, they're not totally broke, they can contribute to US helping them and like you said, and if we needed help, you could come to our aid all as well. It's just as it's constantly a one way street, with US going to protect, gus going to provide. I mean, Haiti could have a storm and we said we're there were to be stuff to m but yeah, we can't feed our own home. Well, we're that's yeah, but that's the other thing about the military is that, like guardsman, you will have guardsmen deployed to God awful countries because of a hurricane and they're feeding them toilet paper, food, building house. It's not just literally...

...shooting and killing people. There's a lot of humanitarian things that the military to guard, whether it's Marines, air force, Navy. When not eleven hit the USS Comfort went to New York City, it was a hospital in the water. So it's just not blowing up people. We do a lot of things, and you speak about especially the guard. Yeah, the recruitment issues and whatever my generation, rich generation, would have you were getting older. We're we'RE NOT DR going to call us back knowing fast. I don't. Well, unfortunately, I don't know the fucking I wander. I when I don't happen. I want to really listen, they told me I was too old. Well, but then everybody's the agent. I'm somebody hold. Somebody needs to pick up the torch. Somebody needs to pass up Atton. Yeah, if we don't, we're only leaving our own country. Like you said, you don't remembering this force, this identity, or at least this presence. If the younger generation doesn't pick past the Patton, pick up the torch, somebody. There was an old, real old recruitment sign back in I guess Korean mom. It can't always be somebody else's son. Yeah, you know, you watch football, right. M All right, so who's the best team out there right now? Kansas City. What makes them the best? Their leader and their players. Yeah, so they they're building that for saw, and that's something that the United States seas to do with the military. I'm want to as you, though, not you mark, but Joe. How long has your brother in law been in? He's been in forever. Oh really, and he's he's thirty six and he's been in for our he's been insensitively since he was eighteen. So he's make it a definitely a career. No, yeah, it's a career. That's good, but he's constantly going to drill and take new certificates and constantly learning. But I think he's, I in retirement and I you know what, maybe a civilian career with the benefits of being a, you know, guardsman for twenty years did because that goes and, like mark said earlier day, if, especially if he gets a government job, yeah, that goes towards his retire well, if you already retired now, it's still goes because if he retires after twenty years, retire one federal job at it. If not defer, like what you said earlier. It's hard for him because we've asked them, you know, because he's done. For deployments, wow, you know, but they're I think two or three. I'm not sure. I know this one is peacekeeping. I think the other one was. I mean it's, you know, for deployments. Is for deployments. Now they're not. He's not, you know, kicking down doors or anything like that, but we've talked about, you know, looking for an opportunity on the civilian side. But, like you said earlier, it's limited and there's only what you do. What's what's she doing there? So he's a flight maddic so I oh, okay, it's not. I tell you. I mean, doesn't John's friend do that? No, he's he's actually or he's the pilot. He's the pilot for for flight medic thing. I'm a bomb, but I mean there's in a are not shouldn't look put in the I forget what kind of plane or airport helicopter he's in, but there's pilots and then there's Dorman and then he does like the swift water and the hoisting. Wow, really, COUSCO, like the coush guards something. Yeah, is that? I think it's a medic. They called a medic. Could be not anyway. So he could actually if he retire, he retires. If he still wants to work, he could probably get a job. Was it like the MEDVAC, Metvac or something like that. They're there. If if you really like I said, I mean I had to basically wiggle force my way into, you know, the post office. Yeah, you know, I mean it would do. You just didn't, you know, the door didn't swing oopen and hey, here's mark. You know, God, let's bring them in and freaking I mean, yeah, you got a maneuver, negotiate and and but when I got out of the military, the Marines, they had, and it is another thing, but like the Va, they had these what they call them pretty eas classes. Oh yeah, for any there, John, like us a jobs. Yeah, they would tell you how to do us a jobs, all these other different things to va, to this, that and the...

...other thing. And and I can that was ninety seven. I can only imagine right now it's got I've gotten better. Yeah, and when you said about his certificates, that's another thing about the military. I got a couple to that really don't translate to like civilian. I got a had a two month class in North Carolina called Monitor survey team. I was a monitor surveyor team member for nuclear, biological, chemical warfare. That's going to get you a job anywhere. Basically made us walk through the woods and they would throw every kind of gas and see how we've respond and what we did. Like if they if they threw to grant the gas grenade to the left and you'd course, he'd run to the right. What happens if you ran through it? And that of running away from it, depending on which way to win. I was just going to say depends on the win. Well, but yeah, okay, I got a certificate for that, but it doesn't really translate very well with that civilian like he's doing it just he goes for training because if he does the training he gets paid more money. Yeah, but yeah, so it's a it's a career move for him. I mean first aid, I mean someone the certificates that he's getting. He's going to help with the job and it can't hurt. Now you that. I mean you could have, I don't know, exploitive ordnance disposal. Okay, well, you know what, this Guy News had a mess with whatever's bomb check for police for now. So a lot of things that you do through these years, they can be substantial with your life that afterwards as getting a job. Who knows, maybe you know somebody else that that, that did that. It's a it's a connection. Yeah, the guide that you're interviewing for a job, and maybe that's something that's sways him to pick you over somebody else because, hey, you know what I did first day to or I did, you know, whatever it is, and you there's a connection and if that helps you, like I said, I did, the door it swing open for me. I had to, you know, wiggle and squirm and fight my way in there and I think I loanted. The younger generation needs to learn that you're just not going to get a job. It's not going to be found it to you. You got to work for it and fight for it and compete against other people. The other thing I think we're people mess up, and I only know this because I messed up. I not doing this, is when they get out and they do look for a job, they won't put on there. Did they served in the military. I did that with the one job at when I first got in the IT field. Then my boss actually was a was he a captain, captain when he got out of the Marine Corps, and he was. He was my boss. He ran the IT Department there and he hired me as I was doing car sales. My brother in law got me the job. He hired me to basically help run the help desks. Like I don't know to I want to want on the interview I said I don't know how to do computers. The only thing I know how to do is look at the Internet. And this was ninety he no, ninety two now, I can't remember. Ninety eight, something like that. And but I didn't put it on here. Well, it was a week later he came to me said, your brother in law told me you were in the Marine Corps. So you said, why didn't you put that on your application? I didn't because I wasn't right from you. Was Afantry. I am mean, it's like you're not a government and it really he said. No, he said, but your leadership, what you did in there, that makes a difference. I think. See how maybe because of what I did in record. Well, I can guess. One of the jobs I got after I got out of the military was work for Calipillar. HMM, and I fixed for cliffs. Now, mind you, I just spend two and a half years fixing airplanes I got out of the military and it was one of the whatever you want to call it, the the pre end of service classes that I taught opened it up to a bunch of companies that were willing duck higher x miilitary right or seat, actually seat ex military, for whatever reason. Whether we show up to...

...work on time. Yeah, you know, I mean we one. We show up to work to we show up to work on time and we work do stuff and you know whatever. Well, that's true, because they do look at that and he brought this isn't you know? My manager brought that all. He said, yeah, I know you, it's a big part of working. So there showing a hell. Every place I worked at, with the exception of maybe one or two places, I always got a key to open up them because I was the first one. They're most of the time. But when I worked for Calipillar, I was going around fixing forklifts, hi draulics. Airplanes have hundraulics. Yeah, for clips have engines. Airplanes have engines, so it wasn't that big of a whatever. But it was completely a different field then. But yeah, okay, I'm a good mechanic, so be it. After a while they seen that this guy's pretty put together, or at least whatever, they brought me into the office and I was that the Smatcher, and I did pay roll and I did the Labor. I build a Labor to the customers for fixing the forklifts. So they put me in the office and I had three female women in the office with me, and I soon learned to control my hmm Yep, language, because, I mean, the phone was just ringing off the hook right and, like I said, when I at a high school I was a mechanic, worked on cars and the Marines. I worked on airplanes. When I got out I worked a Calipillar fixing forklifts. I got used to my own way of saying things and when it brought me in the office and this phone would just ring off the hook, somebody else was one of the phone and I'm just going off on so, yeah, I stopped working doing the office thing because that wasn't really cut out for that. You know what the funny thing is, and it's not of all military. I know it's definitely if Marines, that Marine Corp mentality is always stuck with you well somewhere. Yeah, it's always in the back of your mind. Yeah, you gotta, you know, like weddings and and and especially when people, you know the the podcast or whatever, when people got the video camera going and you're just telling a joke or something like that and you just feel, you know, Willie Nilly, just the rant and rave and whatever. The UH Huh. When you hear yourself back, when that video to somebody posting on Facebook, you're like wow, uh Huh, I think my church voice. You know, it's true. It's definitely true. It's where was I was. I was I doing crap. I forgot now, but I was somewhere and I said something which apparently offended somebody, but it was something triggered me. Yeah, and I didn't mean it in a bad way, but you don't have people are nowadays. They thought it was man. Well, like you were getting back a while. You eliminate you was you mentioned that you eliminated the fact that you were in the Marines when a job application. Yeah, that's what I was going with. The when I worked in the office, three women. I think maybe for some jobs they the employer might feel that grunt marine planning to an office job. Yeah, might be a little bit too harsh. Then you all to be, that's true, a greeter at Walmart. Yeah, I mean, I mean if you were great at Walmart or whatever, but if you were at like a like a senior center and you know for big corporate company's exactly, and they lift the door roup and and you stand up and go, Hey, you want to close a freaking door, I'll come over there, cooker, uh Huh. Yeah, yeah, that might not be a suitable you know thing. So that you that's the other thing is God, when I know, before I got in the it feel I was selling cars. Love selling cars. Yeah, and I was going to go to work at Thompson and they told me, they said, well, you've never sold cars, so go work somewhere else and get experience. Like okay, said the time. There's this place called key oldsmobile and I was working there and of course I never did car sales. So they...

...told us what all this stuff is like. Okay, I was only there, I think, a week, maybe two weeks. And so there's a guy on the parking lot. Manager said, Briche, go out there and talk. Okay, so I did. A guy ask if I could be of Assistan. He's like, well, I just want to look around right now. I said okay, and I introduced myself, going on and on. Always say now. He said, I just I'm just looking around. I said, okay, well, if you want to know where specials are in all this, say what they told us to do. He's like, I tell you, I just want to look around. I said, okay, hand in. Actually I didn't have cars yet, so I came back in. Manager jumped them all on me. What the Hell you doing? The trigger went off. I said, let me tell you something right now, motherfucker. You're not my drill instructor, you're not my mother. There ain't nobody yells at me. If you want to take it outside, let's go out there now. And I walked off, went back, went back to my office or my desk, and they see, Guy, know, rich Benett, you have a phone call and whatever. So I picked up the fronts of rich buds, being easy. Hey, it's billy's billy who? It's a billy, mark I side. What's up, bills? Say you still looking for a job? Bill Mare work the tops. He was the madder there. I'll say you still looking for a job? I'll say ye. Now, yeah, I said when Guy Start. You See, when can you be here? I said I'll be right down that way, right there, and started. But I mean that's something. It's you know, unless you're my parents, are my drill instructor, you're not yelling at me. I don't go for that and I I'm never forget because there are a couple times. I mean it takes a lot to Piss me off. Yeah, and my daughter did one time and I just went off yelling and I felt so bad dad, with my ex too, and it's like now I shouldn't be yelling at then I don't know how chefs do it, people working under chef's. I mean I'm the same way. I mean it takes a lot and you a Lotta let a lot of things slide. Yeah, and then there's just that one thing that you would just can't let slide and you kind of gotta unleash the last ten things all at one time and it becomes overbearing to the person. That part of being in the military whatever is and drill instructor. I guess we got a high tolerant for being yelled at. Yeah, or you know, whatever. You know, you know, it's just one of the one of the things that we're in corps told me was nothing's impossible and unless it kills you, you're not. Said No, but yeah, we we can be overbearing sometimes, you know. Then the thing is, when we do that, it opens up people's eyes and they realize not want to piss them off right, but there's a you know, it wasn't the first thing or just second or the three. Yeah, it was the twenty second, yeah, you did. You know, I don't know, stop short at twenty one, get a tally board when you hit twenty one stop. But you ever kick yourself in the ass machine that you didn't get out and stayed in? Yeah, that's a long story. I got a lot of trouble. I had A it's weird. I got through boot camp, went to combat training. What the school and moved tree. Went to the first school in Tennessee and everything was good. I was a good boy. And now, growing up in this city, I was a dumb ass. I mean I'd literally we had a thing with matches. I don't know, I was a pot of me Barr. Yeah, I just love playing with matches. I do love sudden Shit on fire, but dad beat the shit out of me. Knock it off, boy. I get fights steel candy from the Candy Stare, Break People's windows, playing baseball, whatever. You know. But yeah, I got all the way up to lake tennis see a school and I had my stuff together. So this is a year in right. Yeah, that are here and and I actually got a meritorious mass and a promotion from PFC to lands quot hall for me to Ethree for being top of my class. So then we go to Florida, Florida, so bow, I kept it together. I didn't do anything really stupid to get in trouble. Right, BURP. Then when I got the Cherry Point North Carolina, when I started working on the Harriars started and I don't know women, they kind of yeah, I don't know, Sandy.

Well, I was dating this girl who was older than they. She was twenty one and I was like twenty right, so I told my military ID and messed with it. So, Oh shit, that's right, because you had to be twenty one, right. Yeah, see, if me it was eighteen. Now it worked for quite a long time until and you wear your Cami's right, put your ID. I washed my cam he's with my id in it, and this was back when they used that. It was a piece of paper with like a little photographs. So it was in laminated. It was laminated, but it wasn't like sealed. Right. Well, I changed the date of my id so I can get served. When it got us in the washing shit, it got totally screwed up, man, I got busted and Bagdady to now it was a paper suspension whatever to call probation. Okay, got your Probas were dropping judgments, clean some toilets, some money, whatever. Slap on the wrist. Then when I did turn twenty one, dating a different girl, went out to the to step in country, dancing whatevering bar. I'm trying to impress her, whatnot. And now all this other stuff. I had a little too much to drink, drove phone base, I shit out in town. It was one oh driving dw I living right own Basil's pointy. I blew at eight. So I got another NJP. This is my second. A Z AP. Once again, another like slab blationary slash wresting, clean some more toilets, lose some money, whatever. Then six months before I get out, this is the four year, three month, seven hours and fifteen minute thing. Thirty six months, three months, something like that. Before I get out, me and a couple friends get together. We start smoking some weed, celebrating too early. Oh Shit, got busted this time. It's going to be a special court marshal. For them to make a special court marshal, they had to hold me past my ea ass. That's why I did say here's three months, twenty four days and seven hours fifteen minutes. So it was basically another slap on the wrist. I went from e for to e one. WHOA it doesn't mean not when I'm getting out. When you get it at well, what the Hell's rank on the outside them, because you're not retiring. So you're not getting a pinch, though. But I got an honorable discharge. Well, I'm good. The reason why I got honorable discharge because I spent four years of my active duty complete. Right, they didn't special, just special court marshal me till three months after I got out. Well, I don't want once again, as my dad would say, you made it through with this skin of your ass. But yeah, so I get out and that's why I did four years, three months, twenty four days, seven hours fifteen minutes holy count. And, like I said, came back home and got a job, got a another job and then got a government job and whose four years in the marine. The four years, three months, twenty four days, seven hours and fifteen minutes count towards my federal retirement with the post office. And they're going to get those last forty five minutes out of your ass to they believe me. You know, that's another kicker too. All the overtime that I work doesn't count to words retirement. I don't know, sauce, we got like a whole year of overtime. God, but they only count whatever. But Anyway, I feel very fortunate. It's things going to go on a have a lot worse. Could stay where I was, could have gotten worse. I could have been in jail, could have been you know, more years. You got to Tim it. I got a way to him, fifty seven. I got nine years to go and Alfred time been them. And I get military. I get va disability, which okay. And the other thing. I forgot to even bring that out. You want to talk about the benefits of being in the military. When I got in the military, I got disability. Got Thirty percent too bad knees, hearing loss and migraine headaches. Thirty percent disable. They gave me voke Rehab. Now you want to talk about the Montgomery Gi. Montgomery Gi Bill, when I was in gave you thirteenzero dollars. That...

...probably get you through two years of community college. Right. The deal now was much better. They have a post eleven gi built. I can only imagine a more money. I'm sure. When I did the thirty percent disabled, that honorable discharge and because of my knees were screwed up, I couldn't change engines and machines. I couldn't kneel down and do two things I did as a mechanic prior to military. So they gave you a career change, basically kind of like if you enlisted you get to pick anollar on the lass right. So I told him I wanted to go to school for business management with a smart thinking degree in finance. So I went to two years of CCB Essex Hmm, and then I went to University of Baltimore and got a bachelor's and finance. So should I didn't know, and the V A paid for it. The va did all of it. Every wow dying. So you want to talk about the benefits of the milit not only were going to train you to do what you signed up to do in the military. If you get out and you're disabled and you go through the FROCT'll train you. But that outamal discharge makes a big difference. It'll and you would have had a disid this charge. You wouldn't be able to use it. You want to be able to use if you had, I said, I can't tell you in none more times that I made it through by the skin of my ass and you got a learned to be humble. You gotta learn to be grateful and also got to learn to see people when they're down. Remember it wasn't too long ago that I was in that situation. Where could be in that situation and not to be so damned judge mental somebody that's going through a rough time. Hell anything, want to help them out, you know. Yeah, be somebody's hero. If you have any interests of being a guest on lifetime moves, just email me at rich Bennett. It's our Seh Bee and and Ett at Dan Bencom Dan been is, Delta Alpha, November, Bravo, Echo Novembercom and yeah, we'll be sure to set let me get you on. This is a monthly podcast where you are looking for a people that are either active military veterans, first responders, doctors, nurses, family members of spouses. Everybody's got a story and we want to hear about it. So please, please, please, please. I can't ask you enough. Get in touch with me. We'll go ahead and get it scheduled. Doesn't matter whether you're here in the states or in another country. We have the ability to set it up to where we can still record. So again, just email me, rich Bennett at Dan bencom.

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